With all our discussion recently about BBS systems, modern interfaces, the growing anger against big tech, etc. I wanted to tell a bit about what I've been doing over the past 3 months.

Like many people, I do not trust big tech anymore. However, I realized that so much of what I use was integrated into it. I had long ago abandoned my "home lab" setup, lured by the promise of the cloud and how easy everything was in the cloud.

But now I wanted out. I wanted my data to be my data. I wanted to decide what features I needed, and when I needed them. Most importantly, I did not want AI scraping and training off my data by stealing it.

What I discovered was, much to my surprise, how easy de-big teching my life was. Which did surprise me.

First, I bought a sub-$100 SFF HP i5 with 32GB of RAM and a 750GB SSD off Facebook marketplace. I then installed Linux on it and slapped Docker on it.

From there - I discovered the world of self-hosting. Papra for my documentation management; gist for sharing/storing notes/recipes/you name it; a self-hosted bookmark app; self-hosted blog. All happily running in individual Docker containers on my little sub $100 PC.

I should note as I did this I was careful to always follow best security practices. Absolute minimum exposed to public web, and I had an edge router I've had for years - so it's own dedicated physical network for connection.

Pretty soon, I tackled data storage - the biggest task - I discovered how easy it was to setup my own file storage, redundant with secure backups. I can even access it securely from my mobile device or anywhere else with a few clicks.

And here's the kicker -- this stuff was not hard to do. Thanks to Docker and a myriad of sites out there that walk you through configuration and setup, it was a breeze for most of it!

Now, 3 months later -- I am saving $60/month on subscription fees I have cancelled out of my life. I have disconnected from "big tech" in a meaningful way and feel I have control over my data now. Most importantly, I feel I am learning again by maintaining my own. I am not longer upset because some cloud service changed their interface one day -- I control when the interface changes, and if it changes at all.

In short, I did my tiny part to give big tech and the tech bros the boot from my life as much as possible. It feels good, and I feel I am not only saving money, but I have more control over my own data now than I ever had before.

-dmxrob

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Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Dmxrob to All on Sun Aug 30 2026 09:09 am

meaningful way and feel I have control over my data now. Most importantly, I > feel I am learning again by maintaining my own. I am not longer upset
because some cloud service changed their interface one day -- I control when the interface changes, and if it changes at all.

In short, I did my tiny part to give big tech and the tech bros the boot from > my life as much as possible. It feels good, and I feel I am not only saving
money, but I have more control over my own data now than I ever had before. >

Do you have a credit card? Do you or your family members use facebook?
You have no control. They already have you.

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Dmxrob wrote to All <=-

From there - I discovered the world of self-hosting. Papra for my documentation management; gist for sharing/storing notes/recipes/you
name it; a self-hosted bookmark app; self-hosted blog. All happily running in individual Docker containers on my little sub $100 PC.

I want to look more into documentation and bookmark management. I've
gone on a scanning bender and scanned/shredded a ton of papers. It'd be
nice to have flexible tags and search for my documents at home.

I switched to Raindrop when my previous bookmark manager closed down,
played with Parakeep a bit. I might go back to it.

I have a homelab already, use it mostly for hosting the BBS and
creating test environments at work. Been wanting to build in more
self-hosted data tools, though.

There's a homelab echo on tqwnet, there are quite a few people hanging
out there...




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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dmxrob <=-

There's a homelab echo on tqwnet, there are quite a few people hanging
out there...

I don't see any homelab sub on tqw... is my echo list outdated, or
you're thinking of some other network?



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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dmxrob on Mon Aug 31 2026 07:47 am

I want to look more into documentation and bookmark management. I've
gone on a scanning bender and scanned/shredded a ton of papers. It'd be
nice to have flexible tags and search for my documents at home.

Check out Papra - I think you might find it meets your needs. I love it because I can run it in a Docker container with persistent storage and just makes everything so "convenient". I have an hourly cron job that backs up everything to an encrypted storage bucket as well.

I have a homelab already, use it mostly for hosting the BBS and
creating test environments at work. Been wanting to build in more
self-hosted data tools, though.

Go for it! So many people I know who were big into homelabs and got out of it with the "cloud rush" a decade or 15 ago are now starting to get back into them. The best thing is you can run most everything you need today on the smallest/tiniest of systems using Docker! No more racks of equipment sucking up the power bill!

-dmxrob

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 2026 02:01 pm

I don't see any homelab sub on tqw... is my echo list outdated, or you're thinking of some other network?

Might be out of date, it was added several months back.

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 2026 02:01 pm

There's a homelab echo on tqwnet, there are quite a few people hanging
out there...

I don't see any homelab sub on tqw... is my echo list outdated, or you're thinking of some other network?

MeaTLoTioN repurposed the TQW_DOCKER echo for Homelab Discussion, but didn't change the name of it (yet).

"I have left the echo tag as TQW_DOCKER for now, but I do intend on changing
it at some point to TQW_HOMELAB - I will send out some notice when I do
have a date in mind."

This was a little over a year ago.

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Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Dmxrob to All on Sun Aug 30 2026 09:09 am

disconnected from "big tech" in a
meaningful way and feel I have contr

Isn't it sad that a majority of people
out there only know of using platforms
and 3rd party things for all this?
They've never known anything else!

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Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: phigan to Dmxrob on Tue Sep 01 2026 12:33 pm

Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Dmxrob to All on Sun Aug 30 2026 09:09 am

disconnected from "big tech" in a meaningful way and feel I have contr

Isn't it sad that a majority of people out there only know of using platforms and 3rd party things for all this? They've never known anything else!

I feel as if you have been born in the 90s forward, you were never given a chance to explore/build your own/run your own. By the time you were a teenager forward everything was going "online". People thought it was normal to pay $5.99/month for this and that, then $12.99 a month, and now $29.99/month.

Luckily we seem to be entering a new era where people are turning away from the big tech - slowly, and not 100% for sure. But at least now I see more people talking about it than ever before. I think you have Flock and Data Center buildouts to thank for that - along with the fact that most of the tech bro trillionaires and billionaires nowadays are pure assholes.

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Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Dmxrob to phigan on Tue Sep 01 2026 05:32 pm

I feel as if you have been born in the 90s forward, you were never given a chance to explore/build your own/run your own. By the time you were a teenager forward everything was going "online". People thought it was normal to pay $5.99/month for this and that, then $12.99 a month, and now $29.99/month.

I've had the same though. I don't like paying recurring subscription fees for things.. I don't even have cable TV, and haven't in years.

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Isn't it sad that a majority of people
out there only know of using platforms
and 3rd party things for all this?
They've never known anything else!

I used to selfhost all my email, but that's not so easy anymore. Gmail receives just fine, but Outlook blocks everything because someone got my server's IP on a
blocklist at some point. At least I can still run my own web server, DNS, and BBS.

It really irks me that our IT guy at work may have to setup a Onedrive cloud storage system for our documents instead of a simple onsite FTP server. Heck, even a simple mapped network drive would be fine.

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 2026 02:01 pm

I don't see any homelab sub on tqw... is my echo list outdated, or you're thinking of some other network?

Might be out of date, it was added several months back.

Well.... I saw in a post from someone else that the "DOCKER" sub was repurposed to "HOMELAB", but the echo/tag name hasn't been updated yet
(for some reason).



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Codefenix wrote to Gamgee <=-

Re: Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Gamgee to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 31 2026 02:01 pm

There's a homelab echo on tqwnet, there are quite a few people hanging
out there...

I don't see any homelab sub on tqw... is my echo list outdated, or you're thinking of some other network?

MeaTLoTioN repurposed the TQW_DOCKER echo for Homelab Discussion, but didn't change the name of it (yet).

"I have left the echo tag as TQW_DOCKER for now, but I do intend on changing it at some point to TQW_HOMELAB - I will send out some notice when I do have a date in mind."

This was a little over a year ago.

Okay, that explains it! Must have missed that announcement, thanks very
much for the info.



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Well.... I saw in a post from someone else that the "DOCKER" sub was repurposed to "HOMELAB", but the echo/tag name hasn't been updated yet
(for some reason).

It is easier to change the description, without breaking any routings, than it is to change the tag.


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Dumas Walker wrote to Gamgee <=-

Well.... I saw in a post from someone else that the "DOCKER" sub was repurposed to "HOMELAB", but the echo/tag name hasn't been updated yet
(for some reason).

It is easier to change the description, without breaking any routings, than it is to change the tag.

Yes, understood.



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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: Fae Empress to phigan on Tue Sep 01 2026 03:31 pm

I used to selfhost all my email, but
that's not so easy anymore. Gmail

I still host my own mail :). The email
going into spam, or getting blocked by
Outlook, isn't that big of a deal
because I don't really send any.

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Dmxrob wrote to phigan <=-

Luckily we seem to be entering a new era where people are turning away from the big tech - slowly, and not 100% for sure. But at least now I
see more people talking about it than ever before.

I'm seeing more gemini spaces, tilde web spaces, blog hosts like bear
blog, and self-publishing than I've seen in a while. Neocities seems to
be doing well, too.


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Fae Empress wrote to phigan <=-

I used to selfhost all my email, but that's not so easy anymore. Gmail receives just fine, but Outlook blocks everything because someone got
my server's IP on a blocklist at some point. At least I can still run my

own web server,

DNS, and BBS.

Yeah, it seems awfully convenient that the people who overzealously
block inbound email sell outbound email services.

It really irks me that our IT guy at work may have to setup a Onedrive cloud storage system for our documents instead of a simple onsite FTP server. Heck, even a simple mapped network drive would be fine.

Reminds me of the early 2000s, when a small company could do everything
on a linux or FreeBSD box. Inbound mail with Sendmail, IMAPd and
qpopper for email, set up a private NNTP server for local
collaboration, LDAP for address books, an FTP and web server for file
sharing, Samba for internal files... Outlook could talk to all of those
and look a lot like an expensive Exchange or Microsoft small business
server.

I had a pretty good business doing just that.



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Luckily we seem to be entering a new era where people are turning awa
from the big tech - slowly, and not 100% for sure. But at least now
see more people talking about it than ever before.

I'm seeing more gemini spaces, tilde web spaces, blog hosts like bear
blog, and self-publishing than I've seen in a while. Neocities seems to
be doing well, too.

I've recently joined Cyberspace.online and notice quite a few younger folks on there talking about how they came there seeking to get away from big-tech sites and gravitating more towards Web 1.0 type sites like that one. It's cool to see.

BTW if any of you fine folks are also on Cyberspace, hit me up! Macross introduced me to it... pretty cool vibe there.

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Quoting Knight Shadow to Poindexter Fortran <=-

I've recently joined Cyberspace.online and notice quite a few younger
BTW if any of you fine folks are also on Cyberspace, hit me up!
Macross introduced me to it... pretty cool vibe there.

I'm zead on cyberspace, and wrote a full featured tui client in pascal for browsing that way. :)


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Knight Shadow wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I've recently joined Cyberspace.online and notice quite a few younger folks on there talking about how they came there seeking to get away
from big-tech sites and gravitating more towards Web 1.0 type sites
like that one. It's cool to see.

I'm trying to join, but it didn't take the password I'd just entered and
I haven't received a reset password email. :(



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Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Tiny to KNIGHT SHADOW on Fri Sep 04 2026 06:15 am

I'm zead on cyberspace, and wrote a full featured tui client in pascal for browsing that way. :)

Say more, please. Also, where can we see it?

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I'm trying to join, but it didn't take the password I'd just entered and
I haven't received a reset password email. :(

Ack! Hopefully that can get fixed up. I'll defintely follow you once you're on (I'm knightshadow on there: https://cyberspace.online/knightshadow).

And Tiny (zead) I gave you a follow too!

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Quoting Phigan to Tiny <=-

Say more, please. Also, where can we see it?

http://github.com/shighfield/tiespace

You can grab it there, linux only but I had the AI write docs to install
it under wsl. Yes, I use claude, it can generate code much faster then
I can, I use pascal as it's the only language I know well enough to make
sure claude isn't introducing spyware.

It needs modern linux terminal as well to display the fonts and images correctly. I use ghostty and kitty for testing, on windows I use the
terminal preview to run wsl in.


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Quoting Knight Shadow to Poindexter Fortran <=-

https://cyberspace.online/knightshadow).
And Tiny (zead) I gave you a follow too!

Sounds good! I'm on limited internet for the next few days. Our trailer
roof caved in over the winter and the whole unit filled with black mold.

My wife purchased a park model so I've been getting that all fixed up.

I'm not at all handy so the floor looks good at a glance, but without
the area rugs you'd see how the lamanite doesn't quite fit everywhere. LOL

Project this weekend is to fix the furnace, the toilet (always the fucking toilet always always always plumbing and I hate hate hate plumbing), and
fix one of the two broken lawn mowers. Most of my data will have to used watching youtube videos on how to do this and just blindly following some random youtube guy and hoping it works. (I'm not sure why we need to
package all this gunpowder and gasoline in a food grade bucket to fix a lawnmower, but it's on the internet so it must be true!)


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My wife purchased a park model so I've been getting that all fixed up.

What is a "park model"? Is that like a "tiny home"? Or they the same thing? I don't see a real home in my future, but I do very much see a tiny home.

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Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Tiny to KNIGHT SHADOW on Sat Sep 05 2026 07:02 am

Quoting Knight Shadow to Poindexter Fortran <=-

https://cyberspace.online/knightshadow).
And Tiny (zead) I gave you a follow too!

Sounds good! I'm on limited internet for the next few days. Our trailer roof caved in over the winter and the whole unit filled with black mold.

My wife purchased a park model so I've been getting that all fixed up.

I'm not at all handy so the floor looks good at a glance, but without
the area rugs you'd see how the lamanite doesn't quite fit everywhere. LOL

are you still using the trailer with the black mold? and ozone generator might Help, along with a lot of cleaning.

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Knight Shadow to Tiny on Sat Sep 05 2026 08:34 am

My wife purchased a park model so I've been getting that all fixed up. >

What is a "park model"? Is that like a "tiny home"? Or they the same thing? I > don't see a real home in my future, but I do very much see a tiny home.

Tiny homes cost a lot too.
You can get a trailer but then you pay lot fees.

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Knight Shadow wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Ack! Hopefully that can get fixed up. I'll defintely follow you once you're on (I'm knightshadow on there:

And Tiny (zead) I gave you a follow too!

I'm on as poindexter, following you both. Looking forward to playing
around on it.



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Tiny wrote to KNIGHT SHADOW <=-

Project this weekend is to fix the furnace, the toilet (always the
fucking toilet always always always plumbing and I hate hate hate plumbing),

I listened to a podcast with a couple of actors talking about houses.
One of them bought a new house and immediately replaced all of the
toilets. Because, of course, you don't want to use someone else's
used toilet in your house. The other person acted like that was a
thing.

I've never replaced a working toilet in a house I bought. I did replace
one toilet that was on the water company's evil list for needing some
ungodly amount of water to flush. We replaced it with a basic toilet
from Home Depot that was free after rebates from the water company.



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Quoting Mro to Tiny <=-

My wife purchased a park model so I've been getting that all fixed up.

are you still using the trailer with the black mold? and ozone
generator might Help, along with a lot of cleaning.

No we tore it down. Andrea found a park model that she liked and bought
it. We're in the same park just in the other (more busy) end. I really
miss the old private lot, but this trailer is much nicer.

I still need to renovate the bathroom and build a deck / gazebo but I
think it will wait until next year. For the rest of the season (a month)
I'm going to just enjoy being out of the city.


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Quoting Knight Shadow to Tiny <=-

What is a "park model"? Is that like a "tiny home"? Or they the same thing? I don't see a real home in my future, but I do very much see a
tiny home.

RV that doesn't really move. Too large to tow with anything except a
transport truck. Ours is for "camping" so we're in a seasonal park that
is only open from Victoria Day to Thanksgiving (early oct).


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Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Tiny <=-

used toilet in your house. The other person acted like that was a
thing.

I've never heard such nonsense.

replace one toilet that was on the water company's evil list for
needing some ungodly amount of water to flush. We replaced it with a
basic toilet from Home Depot that was free after rebates from the
water company.

The previous owner installed a flush toilet that uses a ton of water,
and then built the cabinet OVER the toilet so you can't fix it.

Since I'm currently flushing with a usb cable I tied to the chain and
have to remove the toilet to fix, I'm going to replace with a ceramic
camping style one (foot control) that doesn't use as much water. I'm
hoping to be able to do this without destroying the counter, but if I
need to cut it I will.


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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going Back
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dmxrob on Thu Sep 03 2026 07:41 pm

I'm seeing more gemini spaces, tilde web spaces, blog hosts like bear
blog, and self-publishing than I've seen in a while. Neocities seems to
be doing well, too.

What is gemini spaces?

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Knight Shadow to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Sep 03 2026 09:26 pm

I've recently joined Cyberspace.online and notice quite a few younger folks on there talking about how they came there seeking to get away from big-tech sites and gravitating more towards Web 1.0 type sites like that one. It's cool to see.

BTW if any of you fine folks are also on Cyberspace, hit me up! Macross introduced me to it... pretty cool vibe there.

This is a new one to me - just signed up! I'm over there as dmxrob. Always looking for something to get further and further away from big tech.

-dmxrob

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Dmxrob wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

I'm seeing more gemini spaces, tilde web spaces, blog hosts like bear
blog, and self-publishing than I've seen in a while. Neocities seems to
be doing well, too.

What is gemini spaces?

https://geminiprotocol.net/

Gemini in 100 words

Gemini is a new internet technology supporting an electronic library of interconnected text documents. That's not a new idea, but it's not old fashioned either. It's timeless, and deserves tools which treat it as a
first class concept, not a vestigial corner case. Gemini isn't about
innovation or disruption, it's about providing some respite for those
who feel the internet has been disrupted enough already. We're not out
to change the world or destroy other technologies. We are out to build a lightweight online space where documents are just documents, in the
interests of every reader's privacy, attention and bandwidth.

Sort of like an easier to code gopher that supports TLS.



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Dmxrob wrote to Knight Shadow <=-

This is a new one to me - just signed up! I'm over there as dmxrob. Always looking for something to get further and further away from big tech.

I just followed you -- cyberspace.online is an interesting place. I'm
seeing other sites popping up to create oases for creative types to
collaborate. One group that's done a lot of documentation is Dark
Forest, dfos.com. It feels a little "walled garden"-esque, like a
modern day AOL. With curated membership and a specific focus, they feel
more like a collaborative space.



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poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Dmxrob <=-

Dmxrob wrote to Knight Shadow <=-

This is a new one to me - just signed up! I'm over there as dmxrob. Always looking for something to get further and further away from big tech.

I just followed you -- cyberspace.online is an interesting place. I'm
seeing other sites popping up to create oases for creative types to
collaborate. One group that's done a lot of documentation is Dark
Forest, dfos.com. It feels a little "walled garden"-esque, like a
modern day AOL. With curated membership and a specific focus, they
feel more like a collaborative space.

Does the "curated" membership mean that you have to love Pumpkin Spice
Lattes, have a man-bun, and wear skinny-jeans to qualify? Oh, and drive
an EV, of course.



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Does the "curated" membership mean that you have to love Pumpkin Spice Lattes, have a man-bun, and wear skinny-jeans to qualify? Oh, and drive
an EV, of course.

LOL!

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Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Tiny to PHIGAN on Sat Sep 05 2026 07:02 am

http://github.com/shighfield/tiespace

Heh, I was going to build this on the Pi I'm connected into but FPC wants to install almost a gig of X11 packages. Wtf does it need that for?

Well I'll have to run it from something else, anyways. Guessing it won't work so well on this 8bit computer if it needs a fancy terminal anyway ;).

It would be cool if cyberspace.online's site supported a text browser, or if there was a lite.cybespace.online site or something. Oh well, it'll have to wait until I get to a newer computer.

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Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Tiny to KNIGHT SHADOW on Fri Sep 04 2026 06:15:06

I've recently joined Cyberspace.online...

I signed up yesterday. Nice looking system.

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I signed up yesterday. Nice looking system.

Oh cool! I tried looking for your handle "Mortar" but couldn't find it. Are you using a different handle on there?

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Quoting Phigan to Tiny <=-

Heh, I was going to build this on the Pi I'm connected into but FPC
wants to install almost a gig of X11 packages. Wtf does it need that
for?

You'd have to ask the developers of lazarus. :) When possible I make it generic, but for the cyberspace client it needs a lot of modern tools
for playing music, displaying pictures etc. Tiespace needs a modern
computer as well it's doing a lot of stuff for something that looks so
simple. :)

It would be cool if cyberspace.online's site supported a text browser,
or if there was a lite.cybespace.online site or something. Oh well,
it'll have to wait until I get to a newer computer.

I think the late.sh or something like that client has support for cs now
and it does support all text. I just can't think of the name right now.


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Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Mortar to KNIGHT SHADOW on Thu Sep 10 2026 02:39 pm

Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Tiny to KNIGHT SHADOW on Fri Sep 04 2026 06:15:06

I've recently joined Cyberspace.online...

I signed up yesterday. Nice looking system.

Sounds like a good way to stop bbsing.

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I've recently joined Cyberspace.online...

I signed up yesterday. Nice looking system.

Sounds like a good way to stop bbsing.

Isn't it just another social network with a sepia theme? I read the FAQ and I don't get it.

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Sounds like a good way to stop bbsing.

Isn't it just another social network with a sepia theme? I read the FAQ and I don't get it.

I guess, sort of, yes. The draw for that site I think is that its a Web 1.0 version of it and they purposefully did not include things like: ads, videos, algorithms, suggestions, like buttons, tracking, crypto, bots, etc.

And haven't been on there now for a while, I can definitely see how it differs from BBSing. I wouldn't stop BBSing for it because the way people communicate on it is still very "social media" like. For example I notice people sometimes use it more like a diary, or to post just random stuff, or to just say how they're feeling, or rant post, or say what they are eating.

You do get quality posts sometimes, but it does still have that "social media lite" type of feeling. BBSing I noticed on the other hand seems to be full of posts (for the most part) purposefully intended to evoke discussion/conversation.

So it really does feel like two different worlds to me. I like both honestly. I like Cyberspace because the community there is pretty cool and I learn about new cool tech and people. I do have to sift past a lot of the sort of low quality posts, but I do still enjoy it. I also don't like full Facebook style social media so can appreciate that they are at least "dialing it down".

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Knight Shadow to Fae Empress on Fri Sep 18 2026 04:33 pm

Sounds like a good way to stop bbsing.

Isn't it just another social network with a sepia theme? I read the FAQ and I don't get it.

I guess, sort of, yes. The draw for that site I think is that its a Web 1.0 version of it and they purposefully did not include things like: ads, videos, > algorithms, suggestions, like buttons, tracking, crypto, bots, etc.

How can you possibly like this site?

And haven't been on there now for a while, I can definitely see how it differs from BBSing. I wouldn't stop BBSing for it because the way people communicate on it is still very "social media" like. For example I notice people sometimes use it more like a diary, or to post just random stuff, or to just say how they're feeling, or rant post, or say what they are eating. > You do get quality posts sometimes, but it does still have that "social media > lite" type of feeling. BBSing I noticed on the other hand seems to be full of > posts (for the most part) purposefully intended to evoke
discussion/conversation.

It looks lke website with fake ai posts.

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How can you possibly like this site?

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

It looks lke website with fake ai posts.

Nope, real people there.

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Sounds like a good way to stop bbsing.

Isn't it just another social network with a sepia theme? I read the FAQ and I don't get it.

I guess, sort of, yes. The draw for that site I think is that its a Web 1.0 version of it and they purposefully did not include things like: ads, videos, algorithms, suggestions, like buttons, tracking, crypto, bots, etc.

It would be a lot cooler if it worked on Netscape 3.0. Get rid of the HTTPS! I'm working on a similar
idea, but it's meant to be an old Facebook clone. I REALLY want it to work on old browsers, but
there's still too much CSS and JS. :(

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Knight Shadow to Fae Empress on Fri Sep 18 2026 04:33 pm

I guess, sort of, yes. The draw for that site I think is that its a Web 1.0 version of it and they purposefully did not include things like: ads, videos

It still doesn't work in links/lynx/text browsers. I might actually want to visit it if it did ;). Lookit me bein' all text-mode elitist!

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It still doesn't work in links/lynx/text browsers. I might actually want to visit it if it did ;). Lookit me bein' all text-mode elitist!

I like the idea. I think it would be nice to be accessible by other methods like text browsers, and like Fae said older browsers too. I wonder if they'll introduce that in the future.

They do have TUI clients so you can browse it via a terminal, so I don't see why it couldn't also have a version that is accessible via text browsers.

So far I have seen their regular site implementation, another implementation that looks like a desktop (desktop.cyberspace.online), one that looks like a terminal (terminal.cyberspace.online), and then of course the true command line TUI's like this one:

https://github.com/ArmadilloBrillo/cyber-tui

They also do have an API so others can create their own clients for it. But it would be cool if they had maybe text.cyberspace.online as well so people could do the same thing you want to do.

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HTTPS! I'm working on a similar
idea, but it's meant to be an old Facebook clone. I REALLY want it to

Oh cool! Please share if you want us to check it out! Love new projects :)

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Re: Re: Taking Back by Going
By: Fae Empress to Knight Shadow on Fri Sep 18 2026 08:05 pm

It would be a lot cooler if it worked on Netscape 3.0. Get rid of the HTTPS! I'm working on a similar
idea, but it's meant to be an old Facebook clone. I REALLY want it to work on > old browsers, but
there's still too much CSS and JS. :(

Get the old leaked facebook code and run it through claude.

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